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	<title>Comments on: Horror Roundtable 5 &#8211; The Editor and The Writer</title>
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		<title>By: Erinn Kemper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erinn Kemper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 17:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some really helpful insights, especially once I get over that first hurdle and receive an acceptance. Thank you all for doing this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really helpful insights, especially once I get over that first hurdle and receive an acceptance. Thank you all for doing this!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason V Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason V Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Ellen, Lincoln. I have rejected a lot of stories, and it has not damaged my friendships, but I&#039;m sure it wasn&#039;t the most pleasant thing, either.

I have to say that I did need to edit a nonfiction piece for a magazine once, and the author got irate; he was irate because he felt it &quot;ruined his work.&quot; That wasn&#039;t the case (for instance, there were several factual errors, and a couple of serious omissions, in addition to some minor copy edits). Since then, we have not communicated, but I feel certain this individual is not at all pleased with what had to be done. On the other hand, I have to take it with a grain of salt and just be OK with it. If this person wanted to work together again, I would. It was never personal. Editing is about letting the AUTHOR be the best that they can: Allowing errors, etc, would have been to their (and my) detriment. 

Writing is a personal thing, however, so one must always (try) to remain mindful of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ellen, Lincoln. I have rejected a lot of stories, and it has not damaged my friendships, but I&#8217;m sure it wasn&#8217;t the most pleasant thing, either.</p>
<p>I have to say that I did need to edit a nonfiction piece for a magazine once, and the author got irate; he was irate because he felt it &#8220;ruined his work.&#8221; That wasn&#8217;t the case (for instance, there were several factual errors, and a couple of serious omissions, in addition to some minor copy edits). Since then, we have not communicated, but I feel certain this individual is not at all pleased with what had to be done. On the other hand, I have to take it with a grain of salt and just be OK with it. If this person wanted to work together again, I would. It was never personal. Editing is about letting the AUTHOR be the best that they can: Allowing errors, etc, would have been to their (and my) detriment. </p>
<p>Writing is a personal thing, however, so one must always (try) to remain mindful of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Datlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Datlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lincoln, I&#039;ve personally never had a rejection derail a friendship but I do know of at least one situation when it did. Robert Sheckley rejected a story submitted by Michael Shaara (author of the Civil War classic Killer Angels) to OMNI and Shaara broke off the friendship because of it. I have no idea how close the two were but to my mind that was utterly unprofessional on the part of Shaara.

If writers can&#039;t take &quot;rejection&quot; they should be doing something else. 

Even if I loved every story ever submitted to me I can&#039;t buy them all. Part of the job of any editor is to &quot;reject stories&quot;-for whatever reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lincoln, I&#8217;ve personally never had a rejection derail a friendship but I do know of at least one situation when it did. Robert Sheckley rejected a story submitted by Michael Shaara (author of the Civil War classic Killer Angels) to OMNI and Shaara broke off the friendship because of it. I have no idea how close the two were but to my mind that was utterly unprofessional on the part of Shaara.</p>
<p>If writers can&#8217;t take &#8220;rejection&#8221; they should be doing something else. </p>
<p>Even if I loved every story ever submitted to me I can&#8217;t buy them all. Part of the job of any editor is to &#8220;reject stories&#8221;-for whatever reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Lincoln Crisler</title>
		<link>http://www.horror.org/blog/?p=2929#comment-17645</link>
		<dc:creator>Lincoln Crisler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of comments, and a question. 

-- I wear both editor and author hats and enjoy them equally. I definitely feel that editing two anthologies in the past six years has helped inform my work as an author. I might be a bit of an odd bird, but I read slush and give a story a page or two. If it makes it past that, I jump down in the trench with the author and try to fix the bugs. It&#039;s enjoyable, I get a lot of appreciation from the authors I&#039;ve worked with, and have built more than one good friendship from this approach. Not to mention, it helps me avoid similar mistakes in my own fiction. 

-- I have had a few people &quot;give me a piece of their minds,&quot; over rejections, but have also had some responses that were more humorous (unintentionally) than angry. One author actually sent me a survey with multiple choice answers as to why I rejected his piece. 

What I&#039;d like to ask is how often does the editing relationship end up derailing a friendship or professional relationship? I know I&#039;ve rejected work by more than one friend, and a few respected authors--sometimes because the work isn&#039;t a good fit, but sometimes because the piece just isn&#039;t up to par. So far, I haven&#039;t caused any serious damage that I&#039;m aware of. ;D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of comments, and a question. </p>
<p>&#8211; I wear both editor and author hats and enjoy them equally. I definitely feel that editing two anthologies in the past six years has helped inform my work as an author. I might be a bit of an odd bird, but I read slush and give a story a page or two. If it makes it past that, I jump down in the trench with the author and try to fix the bugs. It&#8217;s enjoyable, I get a lot of appreciation from the authors I&#8217;ve worked with, and have built more than one good friendship from this approach. Not to mention, it helps me avoid similar mistakes in my own fiction. </p>
<p>&#8211; I have had a few people &#8220;give me a piece of their minds,&#8221; over rejections, but have also had some responses that were more humorous (unintentionally) than angry. One author actually sent me a survey with multiple choice answers as to why I rejected his piece. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to ask is how often does the editing relationship end up derailing a friendship or professional relationship? I know I&#8217;ve rejected work by more than one friend, and a few respected authors&#8211;sometimes because the work isn&#8217;t a good fit, but sometimes because the piece just isn&#8217;t up to par. So far, I haven&#8217;t caused any serious damage that I&#8217;m aware of. ;D</p>
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		<title>By: Jason V Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason V Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Night everyone!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Night everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Datlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Datlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now I have to go and heat up my dinner. I&#039;ll drop by over the next few days to see if there are more questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now I have to go and heat up my dinner. I&#8217;ll drop by over the next few days to see if there are more questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Datlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Datlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jake: Since JJ has a wide open market he may be more able to respond...

For the Best of the Year, every writer has an equal chance. I&#039;ve only taken one Stephen King story in the four years (so far) of the Best Horror). I published more new or unknown writers in Best Horror #4 than ever before. 

Once I read a terrific stories by a writer I&#039;ll start asking them to submit new stories to me for original projects. I may not buy them, but they have as much of a chance at that point as any other writer I solicit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake: Since JJ has a wide open market he may be more able to respond&#8230;</p>
<p>For the Best of the Year, every writer has an equal chance. I&#8217;ve only taken one Stephen King story in the four years (so far) of the Best Horror). I published more new or unknown writers in Best Horror #4 than ever before. </p>
<p>Once I read a terrific stories by a writer I&#8217;ll start asking them to submit new stories to me for original projects. I may not buy them, but they have as much of a chance at that point as any other writer I solicit.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason V Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason V Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As an author, I tend to think of the short fiction markets as a meritocracy. It’s where new writers have a chance if they write a strong enough story. If I may ask you to pull the curtain aside, how true is that? Does a weaker story by a famous writer go in over a great story by an unknown for circulation or sales reasons?&quot;

No, not by me. I HAVE to really like it. Now, not everyone has the same tastes, so that&#039;s fair, but I won&#039;t put a name in something just to do it, and I&#039;ve published MANY non-name authors, some to great responses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As an author, I tend to think of the short fiction markets as a meritocracy. It’s where new writers have a chance if they write a strong enough story. If I may ask you to pull the curtain aside, how true is that? Does a weaker story by a famous writer go in over a great story by an unknown for circulation or sales reasons?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, not by me. I HAVE to really like it. Now, not everyone has the same tastes, so that&#8217;s fair, but I won&#8217;t put a name in something just to do it, and I&#8217;ve published MANY non-name authors, some to great responses.</p>
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		<title>By: John Langan</title>
		<link>http://www.horror.org/blog/?p=2929#comment-17570</link>
		<dc:creator>John Langan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, everyone, but my family&#039;s calling...I&#039;ll have a look back in over the next few days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, everyone, but my family&#8217;s calling&#8230;I&#8217;ll have a look back in over the next few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason V Brock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason V Brock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 00:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree! I really won&#039;t read them. I think the marketing of that stuff has gotten out of hand, too. Too many TERRIBLE free e-books/stories out there. I refer to it as &quot;static&quot; that obscures the real deal...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree! I really won&#8217;t read them. I think the marketing of that stuff has gotten out of hand, too. Too many TERRIBLE free e-books/stories out there. I refer to it as &#8220;static&#8221; that obscures the real deal&#8230;</p>
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